Heartbreaking events and still so many thoughts of his love. This was a brutal chap. to read after I start this story last night and how it started out to getting to this point. It is really a battle of wills going on much more then just the act but it seemed to have to happen in orde for William to make a change.

I like this, it is log but so worth it do you have any other stories online? I would love to read any of your work.

Author's Response: I think a lot of people were shocked by the sudden change in tone from Part I of the story to Part II. I know this part is a little harder to read, but I'm so glad to hear that you like it anyway. Thanks so much for reviewing! :) Right now, this is the only story I'm working on. I have another spuffy fanfic, but it's on indefinite hiatus until this one is finished. The other one needs a major overhaul, anyway. But when I get to working on it, I will definitely let you know! :)

I think I'm review # 1000!
How cool is that!
Ok this was a terrible thing to happen to William but he must have known on some level Angelus was going to hurt him sooner or later and I hope Spike not only gets even he never sinks to Angelus level!

Fantastic update more soon please!!!
Pretty please?
:D

Author's Response: I am working on an update as we speak, so hopefully it won't be too much longer. Thanks so much for reviewing and helping me hit that 1000 mark! :)

This gives new meaning to the word hate. Is Angels soul coming on soon? I hope he suffers like no other and the years fly by for William cause heis just in so much pain right now and everyones whipped dog.


Author's Response: Don't worry, I'm fairly certain William's days as a "whipped dog" are drawing to a close. :) Thanks for the review!

I am a die hard fan of this fic and it just draws me in all the more every time there is a new page added.
Best story by far on the net!

Author's Response: What a nice thing to say! I am so incredibly flattered that you think so hightly of my story. Thank you. :)

OMG. I've reviewed many times before and don't really want to repeat myself but this story is just fabulous. I'm not even really missing the Spuffy (I know you'll get there eventually) because I'm hooked reading your take on what happens to William/Spike. You end this chapter still referring to William as William, I'll have to wait and see if he starts the next one as Spike now his hatred of Angelus has been born? Looking forward to more and more of this - asap PLEASE.

Author's Response: At the moment, William is still, technically, William. But that won't last, as we all know. I'm glad you liked the chapter, Sam. I always love reading your thoughts, so thanks for taking the time to review. :)

I went and reread all of this story last night and I keep thinking with Buffy going back in time knowing what she did and then playing the role of Elizabeth and not telling William she knew him or knew he got turned in a lot of ways she is sort of irreversibly sort of responsible for a lot of the pain William goes through. She completely inadvertently changed every aspect of his life and then too his death and I'm not sure how well that is going to play out for her later down the line when they come face to face cause to really realize in full all of the awful things that happened to him to get to 120 plus years in the future again and see her again I do not think it will be a happy moment for him it be more like a complete betrayal by her when he has kind of immortalized her in his mind.

Ok this chapter was really like a meeting of two lions coming together cause I think A. realized W. was more then he anticipated probably up until now he thought of W. as nothing more then a toy of Dru's or a puppy he could teach new tricks. And then for W. to strike out at him and to actually knock A. to the ground the feud of the century was no on.

I am excited cause from here on out all the dynamics have changed.

Author's Response: That is a very astute observation. Buffy always knew the risks of becoming involved with William, and she did it anyway, without regard to what harm it might cause him. Naturally, that won't be without its consequences. Thanks for the review. :)

I am glad to see he is holding back on torturing unless needed and simply killing to eat now. He does not seem to want to become as devious and as evil as the others. Intense page and a lot of heartbreak but done with so much introspection of new Spike thoughts you give a real emotions and heart of the man in the monster. I think Drusilla did in a way want to comfort him cause on some level she too is just another victim of Angelus as well and God only knows what he did to her. This story continues to intrigue me and I want to read more of it all the time.



Author's Response: lol. Discerning fellow that he is, William has decided that only certain people are deserving of being tortured, but he doesn't mind killing the rest for revenge and food. Still, I think it does show a definite contrast between him and Angelus. It's a contrast that's always intrigued me and that I'm planning to explore in more detail. I know the content of the chapter was hard to read, but I'm so glad you enjoyed it anyway. And I completely agree with you about Drusilla. She was an innocent victim once, and whatever she has become since has been molded by Angelus and, to a lesser extent, Darla. Thanks so much for the review. I really love hearing your thoughts! :)

Fantastic read as always. You never disappoint.

Very well explained the reason why he doesn´t want to continue torturing his victims. Make very much sense with the Spike from canon.

I like very much the way you are creating Spike. Before I read your story I had always wondered why he changed his name to Spike. I mean I new from canon that it had to do with the railroad spikes he put through his victims head, of course. But I couldn´t understand why he didn´t remain William the Bloody. I mean why he had to renegade from his name. But the way you explained it, With the loss of his own identity where Angelus is telling him that he is not William anymore, his confusion and at the same time his search for a new identity.
He is so acting like at rebel teenager... The change of image, the change of accent, the cigarettes, the cockiness , the giddiness, and most of all the not thinking about the consequence of his actions.:

When Angelus says:

“You dumped that Havisham person in a manure pile outside a livery less than a block from here!”

William had forgotten about that.

“Well, I’m willing to admit that one was rather reckless—”

It almost made me laugh. I could just see Spikes face in front of me with that particular expression of his when he just found out that he made a mistake and his "ups" attitude about it.
And there is nothing that angers a parent more than when a "snotty child" answers back and doesn.t have respect for his elders.

And here Angelus was the angry father, who just got struck by his disrespectful son...

It´s said that most of the times rape is more about dominance than sex, even though it was creepy to read. Specially afterwards when William thinks about it as something not planned but anticipated, Like that Angelus was waiting for an excuse to do just that to him... The times he woke up and Angelus was starring at him. "Uff"

The last sentence of the chapter was very interesting:
"I don´t have to do what you say, anymore"
Can´t wait to see what happens next!!!!!




Author's Response: That rebellious teenager analogy is absolutely perfect! In the early weeks, William was like a wide-eyed boy following Angelus' lead. Now, he's starting to think for himself, explore his own indentity. Naturally, Angelus isn't really pleased about the burst of independence. He liked having a *student* but he wants to avoid having *competition.* And you're right, rape is about dominance and control, not about sex. Sex is just the most extreme way to control someone...you're taking their most intimate act and taking it by force. I know it was not the most pleasant thing to read about, but your grasp on the dynamics of it is perfect. Thanks so much for the wonderful review. I always love hearing your thoughts. :)

And here ends the "friendship" between Spike and Angelus...

Author's Response: Couldn't last forever. :P

Poor William, Angelus is such an ass. William sure is changing.
I am loveing this story, it keeps getting better and better! Your doing a great job!

Author's Response: William is adaptable, which is probably a good thing, considering how different his life is now. I'm glad you like what he's changing into. Since we all know that the end result is Spike, I'm really glad to hear that I'm doing the character justice. Thanks for the review. :)

i honestly hope that spike/buffy meet up soon. i'm really glad to find that spike has finally realized that he doesn't have to be the obedient puppy to angelus dru or darla, more power to him. you are doing an excellent job with this story and i can't wati to read more, update soon? i'll give you a cookie!

Author's Response: Ooh. Cookies? I like cookies! Thanks for the review. ;)

That is right you do not have to do what anyone says! Leave them Spike they are gross!

The more he is with them the more he sees hes not one of them and should never be.

Evil or not hes not like them no rshould he be.

More please!!!



Author's Response: I'm working on the next chapter, now. Thanks for the review. :)

Such a fantastic chapter. The writing is so real and its so easy to picture everything in your minds eye. There are sort of no words to describe Angelus but a soft burning hatred wouldn't be far off. It was heartbreaking to read Drusilla finding that he mumbles Elizabeth's name in his sleep. Love that he fought back when Angelus was about to say her name.
Great update, was so happy to see it there, can't wait to see more!

Author's Response: Thanks so much, squawks. :)